In the vein of the above, a healing rite that can bust the human away from the blood that's infesting them. If you're playing the Weaver Ascendant scenario, successfully freeing the Wyrm from the Pattern Web probably aces all of the antediluvians simultaneously. Mythwalking, for Garou, might accomplish a similar end, especially if you're a Silent Strider channeling Shu Horus. Completely arbitrary and you only get one use of it per lifetime per Mokole. Mokole becomes a True Dragon for a scene. We throw the Tzimisce founder into space eventually, he stops thinking. And my second packmate is bigger than the first one. So an antediluvian turned into a giant mass of flesh? Well, now I'm bigger than that. Might feel like a cheap shot, since that's only a level two rite, and it essentially amounts to a deus ex machina. Summoning an Incarna or Celestine avatar of Helios. Beyond that, there's a level six rite in Croatan Song that causes the sun to stick around/rise earlier, so using it might catch a founder off their time-table and out in the open, assuming that you can get a level six rite performance set up. Renew the Cycle always required a resisted roll, which would have likely short-circuited its utility even before W20.

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